The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. Powered by Invision Community. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. looking4reloadingdeals Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. 6 grains? Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. Use the LRN and you will be good. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. YMMV. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Wish i could find it again. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Both Plated round nose and JHP. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. containers. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . 3.4 gr. In Pistols and Revolvers.. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Obligatory start low and work your way up Nuts accurate. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I am using CBI pistol powder. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. We will pass. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. I found anything much lower to be too weak. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. You say that now. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. BrianEnos.com FMJ in my XD-9 vel. containers. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. LOL. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Does it make a difference? Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Skip this one, you can do better. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. Seen a few of those over the years. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. I dont think i would worry about it. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. C.O.A.L. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. 2.8 gr. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. JavaScript is disabled. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Makes 900fps out of my G17. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. Close w/ TG can be problematic. Can't keep enough at the house. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. Paste as plain text instead, There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. It may not display this or other websites correctly. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. No Charges? Why? A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Feb 27, 2020. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. This powder is very popular. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Thanks for your patience. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. I want to be safe. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. behind a 115gr. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work.