The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. Get rid. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Set the scene for us. I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. Owned by Warner Bros. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. Thanks to all who have signed. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. And we have managed to cover his view on it. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. "Oh! Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. CK:I think not many people will notice. Absolutely mad. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. Win! It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. It is not just the motocycles remember. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. CK:Its pretty bleak. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. @DeGendtThomas, guanyador de la primera etapa de la #VoltaCatalunya 2019. he's saving his energy. You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! And, he is right about it. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. You could hear a pin drop. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. Proper all rounder. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. What you are talking about is a place in history. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. That is the way it appears. Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. London live show preview! Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Eurosports commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. Like this site? While he admits Sagan's explusion for. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby. There are no points for each turn. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. No ! Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. You can use your lens. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! Discovery company. Hosted by Duncan Steer. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? It's their commentators or silence. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. . Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. He believes. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? It is crazy. Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc OK. And then, we wait. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Especially on unstable surfaces. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. I quite like Kirby. Im a bit annoyed at myself because I lost my temper at the time. CK: You need the details. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. We have to get him off eurosport. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Or at least diminished. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. And he wasn't wrong. You have entered an incorrect email address! We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. March 2, 2022 . I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. Its windowless. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. And he has outthought Marcel Kittel here. If she wins so does everyone else. De Gendt, ganador de la primera etapa de la Volta 2019. Stay tuned! https://t.co/rFjZ7dTFUE. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. Help us to make it better. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. He is now only four short. VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. It's embarrassing now. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. I like him. Kirby has more than two decades as a. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. Seriously. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Eurosport cant get away with this !! I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. For no reason. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. -"Looks like shit. There's also his lack of knowledge. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. Yeah he does. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). Agreed. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras.